Mort's Vita Hypetrain thread

TylDurden · 2012-04-11 11:33:22:am

mik wrote:

The only one of those that's a certain pass for me is MGS. I'm ok with never playing another one of those again.

What exactly happened between you and Kojima? I mean, besides the atrocity that is known as "Guns of the Patriots"

famousmortimer wrote:

I've only ever played 1 and 4... and hated 4. But im hoping i can eek some fun out of that collection. I certainly wouldn't say im hyped for it though. In a more busy release cycle i would likely skip it (well, rent it... to review). I still may just rent, actually. That doesn't seem like something i need to own.

2 and 3 are the best in the series. Especially 3, don't miss 'em.

Alien Spidy and Stardrone Exteme are intriguing.

Thrillhouse17 · 2012-04-11 11:38:17:am

MGS3 is one of the best games ever made. 2 is...questionable. I need to pick up the HD collection while home.

TylDurden · 2012-04-11 11:40:31:am

Dokuro, is in fact, an indie-side-scroller-with-a-unique-art-style.

mwayne · 2012-04-11 11:51:06:am

I would agree that MGS 2&3 are the best in the series but 4 had its moments. I don't know if I want to play the collection again. But then again it has: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flK748GogoA

famousmortimer · 2012-04-11 11:51:10:am

famousmortimer wrote:

famousmortimer wrote:

You're likely going to sell it by May, but i fully support irrational purchases. I also expect a torrent of 'why the fuck doesn't it do ____' posts.

Maybe i was wrong, maybe by mid april?

Thrillhouse17 wrote:

That's a pretty dire list when you remove stuff that's already out, or coming out, on other platforms.
Alien Spidy looks cool.

Stuff that's out: Mortal Kombat + Disgaea - If you dont want them you don't want them... but that's not exactly an exstensive list of ports. And what the hell is wrong with ports anyway?

I guess MGS collection is also out... but that's kinda the point of that - it's games that are already out, in a collection, for whatever system you want them on. For some that may be the vita.

As for "coming out on other platforms" what the hell is the problem with that? Zen Pinball 2 will be out on the ps3 and PSV (and you get both for one price), but even if it wasn't setup that way what would be the issue with getting it on the vita? Is it a lesser game because there is a ps3 version? Same thing with retro-city rampage - which being the game type it is should have virtually no difference between any of the versions.

Who knows how good the new resistance game will be. If it was insomniac i would be more excited, but until i see more of this I have no opinion other than 'i like the franchise.'

Sound Shapes and Gravity Rush are original IPs for the Vita and both, by all accounts, are awesome.

I just don't understand what exactly you expected from a launch system. The launch lineup is arguably one of the best that ever existed and the lineup of games coming in the typical lull has some classics, some neat indie stuff, some exciting new IPs, a new version of an established franchise. I don't understand what the problem is. And like i asked earlier, what system didn't have a lull after launch and what system had this many good games at this point in its life?

Though i never thought it made much sense for you to get a vita (other than you seemingly have an endless supply of gaming money). You don't like Sony's IPs, you don't particularly like japanese games, you have a PC so if you want indie stuff you're far better off on steam. You also are a graphics/sound whore so there's zero chance you'll prefer to want a port on the Vita. It just doesn't make any sense on any level that you even have the thing. I mean its your money and you can own whatever you want and bitch in this thread all you want - but it's just odd to me. What did you think the vita was gonna be on April 11, 2012?

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mwayne · 2012-04-11 11:56:17:am

I'm happy with the PSVita, its launch/games, and its future games announced. I just wish I had more free time to play it because its awesome. Also gravity rush to come quicker lol.

famousmortimer · 2012-04-11 11:58:34:am

I would like to know more about summer/fall. But as of right this second I'm more than happy with it. Even when I bought it and my hype was stratospheric I didn't think i'd play it as much as I have.

mwayne · 2012-04-11 12:04:52:pm

Yeah I think pretty much by E3 we will know whats coming out this summer/fall for PsVita so not to concerned.

Thrillhouse17 · 2012-04-11 7:55:17:pm

No need to get so uppity. I'm criticizing the Vita, not you.

When I buy a new console, or a new one is released, I get it to play new games. Not games that came out 1-6 years ago. Ports and rereleases are fine, but when your entire lineup is a bunch of me toos, it looks pathetic. The last Vita game was Motorstorm RC (not a Vita exclusive) and that was a month ago. The next 2-3 months are, yet again, more ports. Weak.

Walked through a Vita section at Best Buy and it became obvious why no one gives two shits. Why would anyone buy a new console and buy full price games, when 8/10 of these are the same or worse as the console versions that came out years ago?

This all stems from the fact that, despite the Vita's problems, it's a console I *want* to use more. But my desire stops short of playing through old, rehashed, compromised versions of games that have been done to death.

The MGS Vita collection won't include Peacewalker. See what I mean?

mwayne · 2012-04-11 8:09:25:pm

Lol every time I go into my bestbuy they are always out of wifi vitas and games. I think it's a crap bestbuy but there could be a shit ton of vita owners in Hawaii.

I like the vita's hardware. It's a great platform to play all the games I never got to play.
Oh and the vita MGS collection is $10 cheaper than the console counterpart. Can you get the peacetime walker from PSN?

Also where the hell was I goin with this comment lol.

Thrillhouse17 · 2012-04-11 8:13:19:pm

Oh yeah, I hadn't considered that you could just get Peace Walker off PSN. But would you still get the HD version?

MGS Collection is like $39 bucks on amazon. The Vita version will be $40. So you'd still be spending more to get less. However, you will be able to "transfar" your saves between MGS2 and 3 to the PS3 version. More games need to get on that bandwagon. Then console ports would make sense.

mik · 2012-04-11 8:22:30:pm

TylDurden wrote:

mik wrote:
The only one of those that's a certain pass for me is MGS. I'm ok with never playing another one of those again.
What exactly happened between you and Kojima?

I've just never liked any of his games. MGS wowed me at the time--made me not really like Ocarina of Time, honestly. But even the novelty of that wore off on me.

mwayne · 2012-04-11 8:35:30:pm

I was under the impression that console version was $ 40 and vita $30. Read an article that said it was $10 cheaper. Now knowing its not I might not get it.

My whole problem is that you don't get this free for buying the console version or vice versa like portal and it ps3/steam copy deal.

Maybe future ps3/vita releases will take advance of this idea.

Thrillhouse17 · 2012-04-11 8:45:12:pm

I'd love to see some combo deals. The only thing I can think of is that if you buy the Vita version of SF x Tekken it'll include all the dlc, $20 worth, that will also unlock all the DLC for the PS3 version. So, were you going to get all the DLC anyway, the Vita version would end up costing you $20.

I'd probably be willing to shell out $20 for the Vita version of a game as well, assuming my saves transfer back and forth, on the off chance I play the Vita outside of my house.

famousmortimer · 2012-04-11 9:42:49:pm

Thrillhouse17 wrote:

No need to get so uppity. I'm criticizing the Vita, not you.
When I buy a new console, or a new one is released, I get it to play new games. Not games that came out 1-6 years ago. Ports and rereleases are fine, but when your entire lineup is a bunch of me toos, it looks pathetic. The last Vita game was Motorstorm RC (not a Vita exclusive) and that was a month ago. The next 2-3 months are, yet again, more ports. Weak.
Walked through a Vita section at Best Buy and it became obvious why no one gives two shits. Why would anyone buy a new console and buy full price games, when 8/10 of these are the same or worse as the console versions that came out years ago?
This all stems from the fact that, despite the Vita's problems, it's a console I *want* to use more. But my desire stops short of playing through old, rehashed, compromised versions of games that have been done to death.
The MGS Vita collection won't include Peacewalker. See what I mean?

I didn'nt mean to come across as uppity, I really am just at a loss as to what you expected. I hope you didn't have a 3ds at this point last year because that shit was far more dire.

Best Buy doesn't give a fuck about the Vita from what I can tell. All I hear is stories about how different stores across the country all have a tiny section mixed with psp shit that looks like it was tossed there. I'm sure sales of the system have something to do with this. You can bet your ass that their iPad/iPhone section is setup perfectly.

I'm not disputing that there needs to be more games. There does. And I'm not disputing that it's selling like shit because it is and for a good reason. The thing is fucking expensive. I think even if Nintendo released a surprise Mario game on it next month it would still sell like shit at this price point for the system and the memory.

But Sony is looking at this in terms of the next 4 years, not the next four weeks. And even though Sony does a lot of retarded shit that's what they have to do. And it's what all console makers do. After the 3ds launch how many big games were there? Zelda, a remake, in June..... starfox in August or September? Two games, both ports. The rest of the stuff (and there wasn't much) was all shit. Sony has already offered more in a month than they did in 6 months. But Nintendo got smart and dropped price and released two huge games. If Sony doesn't do the same they are fucking retarded.

But still, I just don't understand what exactly you expect software wise right now. Launch titles sell because people want software at launch... but after that, on every console ever, there's a lull as developers wait for more units to get sold so they have a bigger customer base to sell to. Why in the world would anyone release a big game for the vita right now? It would be a financial disaster. So we get cheap and easy ports.

Ps3 was the same way. The first year of that system had a couple amazing games but was mostly months at a time with nothing at all except for shitty ports of 360 games. The first year of the 360 was the same way. Remember how we all tried to convince ourselves that Perfect Dark Zero was good because it was the only thing to play?

The ps2 launch had SSX and....? Xbox had Halo and...?

I dunno. Im still enjoying the launch lineup and I'm looking forward to almost everything coming in the next few months. I guess I don't really require others to feel that way.

nasero · 2012-04-11 9:58:54:pm

Actually, looking back on it the Xbox had some good launch titles. Halo, Project Gotham Racing, Dead or Alive 3 and Jet Set Radio Future (in Japan though). I'd say it had a stronger launch lineup than the PS2 but all that is beyond the point and me being bored during a hockey game commercial.

famousmortimer · 2012-04-11 10:11:39:pm

Yeah, it's not bad.... though I personally never liked the pgr series or the dead or alive series. But my point was more about the months following the launch. It's always a lull.

Thrillhouse17 · 2012-04-11 10:11:50:pm

PS2 had a decent launch as well. http://ps2.ign.com/articles/080/080661p1.html

But the key difference being both of those consoles had new, original, games available. I've never seen a launch rehash and reuse games like the Vita. It's pretty pathetic.

famousmortimer · 2012-04-11 10:15:07:pm

Most of those games were sequels and the ones that weren't sucked... except for SSX.

Man I fucking loved Eternal Ring though. I wish they would put that on the store.

Thrillhouse17 · 2012-04-12 8:21:14:pm

Tekken Tag ps2 was the first time I realized arcades were dead. God I loved that game. Spent an entire summer in an arcade popping quarters into that machine.

famousmortimer · 2012-04-12 8:47:12:pm

Dreamcast did it for me. Between soul caliber and crazy taxi I knew my days of going to arcades for sexy graphics were behind me.

Thrillhouse17 · 2012-04-12 9:03:07:pm

I bought FF8 instead of a Dreamcast. I fucked up.

famousmortimer · 2012-04-12 9:05:50:pm

NFL 2K1 is the reason this place exists, strangely enough. I loved the dreamcast, but probably more for the dudes I was playing online with than the actual games.

Thrillhouse17 · 2012-04-13 9:36:56:pm

Played my 3ds today. Made me realize how much better the vita is.

Played my dsixl today. That really is the perfect handheld.

How did Nintendo go from getting it so right to getting it so wrong?

mwayne · 2012-04-13 11:30:26:pm

Nintendo went smaller and to tech that give you headaches. Stupid.
Sony went bigger and to tech that is true sexy Sony fashion.

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